(January 18, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Chas Wrote:(January 18, 2015 at 1:42 pm)Heywood Wrote: Chas I am open to the idea that biological evolution does not require an intellect to get started. You guys are the ones, holding a position simply on stubborn faith and not any objective observation, that biological evolution does not need intellect to get started.
All I am asking is for you guys to back your faith based belief...with some observation. You have none it seems. All you have is your insistence that your are right and I am sorry that isn't sufficient.
If you say that it might require intellect, fine. But you keep insisting that it does require it and you have not demonstrated that
My claim is that evolution does not need it - "je n'ai pas eu besoin de cette hypothèse". Once there are replicating organisms, then evolution will occur.
If you are specifically talking about abiogeneis, then just say so and quit conflating it with evolution.
I'm not insisting that it does. I am claiming there is reason to believe that it does because when you observe the implementation of evolutionary systems...in every observation you can find the involvement of an intellect. What good reason exists to claim that it doesn't?