Detecting design or intent in nature

[helyott]

Computer simulated evolution is real evolution of virtual animals.
As we are writing about true animals and true life your argument can't be accepted.
All the creation you are dealing with are artificial creations. Because you have 2 created creations who are artificial you can't argue that life is created by intelligence or planification.

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I have an exemple of evolutionary system come into existence : The system we are living in and that we can modelize with computer. With a computer can you create a true living system in true life ? ? ? Nop.

You are a sophist.

On earth some artificial system with evolution inside can exist = is true.
This artificial system is made by man ( because a computer must be programmed ) = Is true.
Man is intelligent. I will say yes.. But...
All real living system is created by intelligent planification. False.
What you have "proved" is that we can create only artificial evoluting system nothing else.

Try another argument please.

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Mycoplasma laboratorium is a species of life created in the laboratory. Its DNA was constructed in a lab and the organism was assembled. It is a living thing constructed by intellects that is now evolving. Your claim that intellects only create evolutionary systems which evolve artificial non living things is false.

It has been demonstrated that intellects can create evolutionary systems which evolve biological things. It has been demonstrated that intellects can create evolutionary systems which evolve virtual things. Its been demonstrated that intellects can create evolutionary systems which evolve information. It has been demonstrated that intellects can create evolutionary systems which evolve in animate things.

What has never been demonstrated to be true.....ever.....is the claim that evolutionary systems can come into existence without the involvement of intellects.

Again, I ask you to give a clear example of an evolutionary system which was observed to come into existence which did not require the involvement of an intellect. Put up or shut up.

I don't want to loose my time saying each time the same thing, if you want to explain the same thing again and again and again, i don't want to explain again and again that, the more important proof that a system can be evolutionary and without been created by an intelligence is the system you are living in...

But je ne parle pas aux cons, ça les instruit....

I am not here to speak about a concept, that you don t have a single chance to make me believe in. This concept is in my signature.