(January 22, 2015 at 2:49 pm)schizo pantheist Wrote: James Randi offers $1,000,000 for proof of the paranormal (with the catch being lab tactics that don’t work with the sacred).
Wow, that's very convenient for you and your unsubstantiated claims.
Quote:The point is it is quite important of a topic to many people on earth, so why the brushing it aside as “oh it’s worthless craziness”? I walk in and say here doc is a way to study spiritual phenomena scientifically and the response is kind of “that’s nice, here is a pill to make it all go away”.
Rather than try to make Goddess/God go away, the real scientist should have the natural attitude of “wow, fascinating, I need to get this to the lab and do some studies!”.
So, essentially you're upset because scientists and your therapist won't enable your medically diagnosed delusions by playing into them for you? And you can't, at any point in this conversation where you tell other people what's logical and what isn't, see why your therapist might want to avoid doing that, in good conscience, considering her job and your diagnosis?
Let's say you're exactly right, that you do have something going on that's supernatural, but that you can't control and won't show up for testing. Let's play the empathy game, and place you in your therapist's shoes: this is a court appointed visit, you said? So I assume there's some form of court oversight going on here too? Your psychiatrist has been hired to get you well, is probably issuing progress reports to somebody up the line, and then she has you, her patient, claiming that you're not really sick, you've just got magic happening to you. Even if you're right, what the hell do you expect her to do? You keep pulling your claims back from the suggestion of testing, so there's no way to actually establish that what you're saying is true; from the outside looking in, your therapist taking you seriously on this looks exactly the same as her enabling the exact illness that she was brought on to treat. At best, you're asking her to lose her job because her believing something you can't demonstrate would make you feel better.
Why would you want that?
Quote:I find this same problem with atheist scientists who are ignorant. Ignorance isn’t confined to one group of people, but in the atheist genre there is the consensus in the philosophy (kind of circular reasoning) that because God doesn’t exist God should not he studied. Because nothing paranormal exists anything claiming as such should be written off as unscientific, or basically a pile of shit.
Look, when you start off by saying that your supernatural claims can't be tested under laboratory conditions, you can't then wonder why nobody is trying to test your claims under laboratory conditions, and start calling everyone else ignorant because they won't take the claims you say can't be tested seriously. You're essentially calling us stupid because we won't take you at your word.
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