Detecting design or intent in nature

[bennyboy]

Since you can easily falsify proposition 1 by presenting an example of an observation that supports proposition 2, there is no trying to prove a negative.

You are simply trying to weasel out of providing an observation which supports your worldview in the context of these two propositions.

Maybe your world view is wrong. Have you ever considered that?

My world view is that I don't know where the universe came from, or why it includes evolution. If I'm lucky, I might find out a little bit about those things, but so far no dice.

See here's you essential mistake: you think I believe there's no God. You think I believe God didn't make the universe, or evolution. This is not my position. My position is that if I don't know, I say I don't know. And if someone is clearly trying to assert a position, I want them to convince me that it's worth adopting that position.

Your question-begging and appeals for proof against a negative might let you feel you are "winning," but none of it helps us understand the universe better. It's obvious to everyone but you that it is you who are trying to twist the truth so that it fits into your fairy-tale-based world view. The rest of us just want you to give us adequate justification for moving from the very simple "I don't know" to the much less simple religious position you are clearly trying to steer for.