RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 24, 2015 at 3:01 pm
(This post was last modified: January 24, 2015 at 3:13 pm by Heywood.)
(January 24, 2015 at 8:44 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: How about markets.
Markets are systems.
A system is a set of connected things or parts forming a complex whole. A market is comprised of buyers, sellers, prices, and products.
(January 24, 2015 at 8:47 am)Rhythm Wrote: It doesn't really matter. Heywood has demonstrated that he's only willing to consider his own examples, and that when those examples turn out to be something other than what he thought they were, he isn't willing to consider that either. He's long since checked out of rational discussion. No amount of explaining any of this to him will make an iota of difference, because he doesn't give a shit about the things we say, or even the things that he says, this entire thread is an excuse to repeat "therefore god" until armageddon.
On the fundamentalist boards they say the same things about atheists. That atheists are only willing to consider their own evidence.
Rhythm it is not an unwillingness of my part to consider your examples. I have. Its just that so far every example you guys have presented fails under scrutiny. Julia's example required intellect. Stimbo and Surgenator gave examples of evolutionary systems of which their are no observations of their implementation. You sputtered a bunch of weasel words by trying to categorize evolutionary systems as something so broad it can be virtually anything. Sorry Rhythm we are discussing things with the elements of replication, heritable triats, change and selection.....river systems just don't contain those elements.
(January 24, 2015 at 7:00 am)robvalue Wrote: I can't add any more about how you don't understand evolution than has been repeatedly said over the last 50 pages.
Negative Rob, you won't because you can't.