RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 25, 2015 at 4:27 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2015 at 4:31 am by Heywood.)
(January 24, 2015 at 4:51 pm)Surgenator Wrote: So your not interested in evolution but abiogenesis. Specifically, how we would get the first self-replicating molecules. Science currently doesn't know the answer. So what? Do you think now that you're claim is correct? Do you think that your claim is more probable? Because it is not. Your claim introduces whole set of other improbable consequences.
Negative,
I'm interested in how evolutionary systems come into existence(which is a fair question).
My claim is that since all the evolutionary systems whose details of origination are known to us have all required intellects, that is reason to believe that all evolutionary systems require intellects. If everytime I measured the permittivity of free space and found it be exactly the same....no matter where I measure it, that is reason to believe that the permittivity of free space is exactly the same everywhere. There are points in space that I cannot measure the permittivity....because those points are in the past. I can still draw reasonable conclusions about them though.
I asked you if you could provide an observation of an implementation of an evolutionary system which did not require an intellect. You provide an observation of an evolutionary system which you admit, you have no idea how it was implemented. How can you now say with a straight face that the observation you presented falsifies my argument?
(January 25, 2015 at 4:09 am)robvalue Wrote: Heywood: fair enough, my comment was unecessary and came off more confrontational than I intended. My apologies.
Apology accepted. Too answer your question the argument I presented doesn't get you to God. The only conclusion you can draw from it is that evolutionary systems require intellects to come into existence. That intellect doesn't have to be God-like because it is obvious that human-like intellect is sufficient.