RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 26, 2015 at 3:32 pm
(This post was last modified: January 26, 2015 at 3:39 pm by Heywood.)
(January 26, 2015 at 7:22 am)StuW Wrote: A ) what YOU describe them as is irrelevant as the people who did the experiments and wrote the paper are the ones who get to name the results.
B ) what you are describing isn't flocking but murmuration which is a behaviour exhibited by a flock.
I didn't know the phenomena I was referring to was called a murmuration. Thanks for the vocabulary lesson! Anyways here is a video of that phenomena. It is an example of emergent self order that requires intellect. It is emergent self order because there isn't a centralized intellect or boss directing the movement or the creation of the patterns. Nevertheless what you see is the result of thousands of intellects all following some simple rules.
I don't believe my claim that there are some emergent self organizing phenomena that require intellect is unreasonable. The intellect fits in either as a direct component or to set it up. The example of you gave in your article is an example of a phenomenon that needed an intellect to set it up.
(January 26, 2015 at 11:27 am)Chas Wrote: No, no one who understands evolution would say that. Not one.
No true scotsmans would have failed in this thread as hard as you have failed Chas. You can't go one post without committing a blunder.