RE: Free speech
January 29, 2015 at 11:15 am
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2015 at 11:17 am by Brian37.)
(January 29, 2015 at 12:25 am)Eager Mind Wrote: Just out of curiosity, does anyone here not believe that their should be freedom of speech and religious expression in our country?
Should the humiliation of Christians possibly be considered a hate-crime? Where do you draw the line and does no line take us down a slippery slope?
Love over tongue-lashing or na?[/i]
What the?
Holy crap. Nice passive aggressive falsely playing victim.
No one I consider sane, and I do not speak for all atheists, but the ones I consider sane are NOT interested in using government force to end religion. But if one cannot provide evidence for any claim they make, it is not our duty to remain silent and never challenge it or ridicule it. Do not confuse human rights with evidence for a claim.
You can claim till you are blue in the face that the Yankees won the Superbowl, no one is going to stop you. You have the right to make whatever claim you want and others have the right to say "that is not true", "where is your evidence" or even "bullshit".
Only an idiot thinks being insulted is worse than being murdered over an insult. In the west you and I get to go home at night without fear off mob violence, or government arrest or state sanctioned murder over mere beliefs.
Human rights are a given, but ideas and claims do not deserve a pedestal. There is a difference between bigoted hate, and hate of an utterance that someone has no evidence for and demands special rights to be free from criticism. NO ONE deserves a pedestal. Taboos are what fascist state worship like North Korea demand and fascist theocracies like Saudi Arabia demand.
(January 29, 2015 at 12:25 am)Eager Mind Wrote: Just out of curiosity, does anyone here not believe that their should be freedom of speech and religious expression in our country?
Should the humiliation of Christians possibly be considered a hate-crime? Where do you draw the line and does no line take us down a slippery slope?
Love over tongue-lashing or na?[/i]
What the?
Holy crap. Nice passive aggressive falsely playing victim.
No one I consider sane, and I do not speak for all atheists, but the ones I consider sane are NOT interested in using government force to end religion. But if one cannot provide evidence for any claim they make, it is not our duty to remain silent and never challenge it or ridicule it. Do not confuse human rights with evidence for a claim.
You can claim till you are blue in the face that the Yankees won the Superbowl, no one is going to stop you. You have the right to make whatever claim you want and others have the right to say "that is not true", "where is your evidence" or even "bullshit".
Only an idiot thinks being insulted is worse than being murdered over an insult. In the west you and I get to go home at night without fear off mob violence, or government arrest or state sanctioned murder over mere beliefs.
Human rights are a given, but ideas and claims do not deserve a pedestal. There is a difference between bigoted hate, and hate of an utterance that someone has no evidence for and demands special rights to be free from criticism. NO ONE deserves a pedestal. Taboos are what fascist state worship like North Korea demand and fascist theocracies like Saudi Arabia demand.
Don't know how I double posted, sorry.
