RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 29, 2015 at 8:21 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2015 at 8:25 pm by Heywood.)
(January 29, 2015 at 6:52 pm)Chas Wrote:(January 29, 2015 at 3:31 pm)Heywood Wrote: Nests get replicated. Reproduction is not needed for evolution just replication.
Nests are not replicated, they are constructed. One nest is not made from another.
Replication does not require the next generation to be constructed from the matter that composed the previous generation. I have no idea where you get that idea but its completely asinine. Constructing a copy of something is replication. Birds construct copies of the nest in which they were hatched. They are replicating nests.
(January 29, 2015 at 6:52 pm)Chas Wrote:
Here is what evolution is: Imperfect replication of replicators. The rest follows.
Your definition of evolution is narrow minded. Benny claimed that I only look at human evolutionary systems and he is wrong. I'll look an any evolutionary system which satisfies the very reasonable definition I have provided. So lets ask the question, do birds nests evolve.
Are birds nests replicated? Yes this is obviously true.
Do birds nest contain heritable traits? I would say yes because the birds pass on the design from one generation to the next.
Do birds nest change? Yes, one copy is not exactly like another copy.
Is there selection? Yes, the better the nest the more likely the nest is going to be productive.
A birds nest like this is the product of evolution. The system of bird nest evolution requires the intellect of birds.