RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 30, 2015 at 3:55 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2015 at 3:55 pm by Heywood.)
(January 30, 2015 at 9:58 am)Chas Wrote:Heywood Wrote:Is biological evolution a Heywood System? Well yes it is because it contains the elements of replication, heritable traits, change, and selection. It satisfies the definition of Heywood System and therefore it is a Heywood System. Since it is likely that all Heywood Systems required intellect to be implemented it must also be likely that biological evolution required intellect to be implemented. To conclude otherwise would be to make a special pleading fallacy.
Now you can falsify the conclusion that it is likely that biological evolution required an intellect to be implemented by showing that it does not satisfy the definition of a Heywood System. Or you can falsify the conclusion by presenting an observation of a Heywood System which did not require an intellect to be implemented.
Playing games like Chas is playing...."oh you are not using my definition so you arugment is false"......doesn't really help you. If you want to refute my argument, you have to use my definitions otherwise you are just straw manning....like Chas.
I have bolded your fallacious reasoning. This fallacy has already been pointed out by others and you simply ignore it.
Proving something for a subset of a set does not prove it for the entire set; and that is what you are fallaciously attempting.
Biological evolution is a subset of Heywood systems so conclusions drawn about all Heywood systems would apply to biological evolution as well. Further implementations of biological evolutionary systems have been observed requiring intellects. Craig Venter's creation of Mycoplasma Laboratorium started to evolve. Yes it is almost identical to the biological system which is responsible for you and me but it is not the same system as the one responsible for you and me.
Now it is a fact that all evolutionary systems(including biological ones) whose origins are known have all required intellects. To continue to believe that the evolutionary system which is responsible for you and me some how did not require an intellect requires a special pleading.