(January 30, 2015 at 11:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(January 30, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Heywood Wrote: Replication via reproduction is replication. I am not missing it.
That's nonsense. Not all offspring are replicas of their parents.
The offspring of a chicken is a chicken. Chickens are replicated via reproduction. Are you suggesting there are cases like where the offspring of a chicken is an hippopotamus?
(January 30, 2015 at 11:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(January 30, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Heywood Wrote: You have given no reason why reproduction is a special case of replication to such a degree that it should be treated differently from other forms of replication.
You already gave that reason. You are insisting that the definition of evolution you're defending is different to that of biological evolution. Reproduction is the basis of biological evolution. Now, if you want to carry on arguing for your definition to be a form of evolution that's fine, but if you want to argue biological evolution you have to consider all of its definition, otherwise you're fighting a strawman. You cannot equate the two in the way you want.
Negative.
The definition I am using is satisfied by biological evolution so I can equate that system with any other system that also satisfies the definition. Both systems are the same kind of system.....they are both systems which satisfy my definition. If you do not want to call them "evolutionary systems" that is fine...don't call them that. Call them "Heywood systems" instead. It doesn't help you get to a refutation because observations suggest that all Heywood systems require intellect. Basically your still stuck trying to come up with an observation of a Heywood system which does not require intellect to be implemented. You can't weasel out of it by claiming that reproduction is not replication.
