Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

[Alex K]

And here you start making stuff up without justification.

ok question time.
1. are you a materialist?
2. if yes, do brains produce mind?
3. can mind exist without brains to produce them?
4. if yes, then what produces them besides brains?
materialists tend to think minds are processes of brains and therefore necessitate them. if your belief differs please explain.

Yes, I'd say I am

This is exactly what I mean. It is apparently lost, and in order to keep up your idea of the primacy of consciousness over matter, you have to start making excuses and hedging that go counter the observation.

there is a difference between something that is apparently gone and actually gone. I am saying it merely appears their consciousness is gone, but it is not.

You claim that it is not gone, contrary to observation, without evidence.

it is fallacious to say "it appears gone therefore it is."

I'm not drawing a hard conclusion here. We are talking about Occam's razor, and if you try to advocate that consciousness is still there even when it apparently isn't, you better have evidence for that very strong claim that makes it survive the razor.

this is the problem with using information that is a posteriori. you cannot prove something is necessarily true of mind from what you observe in reality. but you can prove something is necessarily true of mind from what you observe in your own conscious states.

Again, I didn't try to prove anything

Consciousness as we know it is lost when you are unconscious.

"for all we know it's gone therefore it's gone..." do you hear yourself?

It is lost by definition when you are unconscious. You can then invent a definition of consciousness which is still present when you are unconscious, but then it is you who is begging the question.