(February 2, 2015 at 6:46 am)robvalue Wrote: ADK:your question assumes materialism. let me ask you a question. is it possible for you to exist in a world projected by your mind? I suspect you will say yes since every time we dream we are in a mentally constructed world. second, is it possible to perceive beyond your mental perception? since this possibly is incoherent, you should say no. third, what then is wrong with the postulation that the world we think is real is also mentally constructed? given the last 2, there should be nothing wrong or incoherent about this postulation. fourth, can we perceive a world without mind? the answer is no because there is no perception without mind. fifth, if we are either in a world that has mind or a world that has mind and matter, which world makes fewer assumptions? a world with only mind, or one with mind and matter? take your time...
So what makes you think such a thing exists? If you subtract the physical what is left? The term "abstract" refers to concepts, which manifest as physical brain configurations.
Why should I believe in any of this? It's an extremely vague description of something. Just because you describe it, doesn't mean it's real.
It's like me saying to you a car has a soul, it's the part of the car that makes it the car, the part that isn't just the physical things the car is made from. The essence of the car.
You'd say I was trying to define things into existence, presumably. Or do cars have souls too?
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
-Galileo
