RE: Idealism is more Rational than Materialism
February 2, 2015 at 8:00 am
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2015 at 8:02 am by Rational AKD.)
(February 2, 2015 at 7:49 am)robvalue Wrote: Mind? I was asking what a soul is. Is our mind our soul?soul and mind are equivocal.
Saying it's impossible to exist without a mind is an unsupported assertion. What does "exist" mean? Do rocks not exist?
These kind of debates are really troubled by definitions.
I said for "Us" to exist. can we exist as rocks? yes... but you wouldn't be conscious. in order to have thoughts, senses, and awareness; you must be conscious. i'm also using consciousness and mind equivocally to avoid further confusion.
as I said in the OP, you cannot doubt consciousness as doubting requires consciousness. you can doubt matter as your mind can produce an apparent material world without actual matter. you cannot observe a world without consciousness (that you exist in) because you need to be conscious to observe anything. you cannot verify what is behind your mental states as you use your mind to verify things. therefore it is unnecessary to postulate our mental states show us an actual physical world when all we need are mental states and we do not need a physical world to explain anything.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
-Galileo
