(February 2, 2015 at 9:28 am)robvalue Wrote: Right, by illusion I don't mean nothing at all is happening, I mean it's probably not at all how it appears. Like it's being looked at from such a strange angle you can't make out what the fuck it is.excuse my slowness. it's hard to keep up with everyone at once.
None of those are proven.
what can't be an illusion with consciousness is the fact that it enables experience. as for what we observe, we observe a world that appears to be physical world. we can observe a similar world when we dream, but we know that's not the physical world so presume it's just mental. you can claim that mental world is illusionary but that seems to be going extraordinary length to protect materialism. so exactly which part of consciousness do you think could be illusionary?
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
-Galileo