RE: Idealism is more Rational than Materialism
February 2, 2015 at 12:37 pm
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2015 at 12:38 pm by Chas.)
(February 2, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Rational AKD Wrote:(February 2, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Chas Wrote: No, it is corroboration that we perceive the same thing.and a corroboration that we perceive the same thing doesn't verify that it's accurate... it just verifies it's collectively consistent.
It corroborates its existence external to and separate from our minds.
Quote:(February 2, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Chas Wrote: Then what are we perceiving?we are perceiving mental states.
Perception is mental states. It is the processing of external signals from the material world.
Quote:these mental states are either caused by brain interpretation responding to stimuli, or they are caused by mind creating them. we have no way to verify one or the other, but materialism unnecessarily postulates a world full of material to which our mental perception is modeled after.
Unnecessary? I again ask, what are we perceiving? Perception is mental process of external stimuli.
Quote: we know mind exists, and it is the most fundamental part of our perception. why assume something is more fundamental when it would be impossible to perceive it and unnecessary to postulate it?
No, mind is not fundamental, mass/energy is. Mind emerges from the ordered structure and interaction of the matter and energy of the brain. Mind evolved.
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Science is not a subject, but a method.