RE: Idealism is more Rational than Materialism
February 4, 2015 at 3:05 pm
(This post was last modified: February 4, 2015 at 3:49 pm by Mudhammam.)
(February 4, 2015 at 11:23 am)Rational AKD Wrote: this still doesn't require material to have such a world you can experience...Lol what? Yeah, I'm afraid all indication says it does.
(February 4, 2015 at 11:23 am)Rational AKD Wrote: yes because one always uses physical examples in order to prove metaphysical concepts... you do know this is philosophy, not science right? science can't prove anything about the metaphysical, which means it can't prove materialism or idealism.Perhaps you know that for metaphysics to have any weight it must be informed by the evidence of the physical world, otherwise it's just pulling shit out of one's ass? Nah, you probably don't, since that's exactly all you've done 10+ pages in.
(February 4, 2015 at 11:23 am)Rational AKD Wrote: or you experience behavior similar to data processing within physical processes. but i'm not about to get into the idealism from quantum mechanics argument. the only thing I've said on this thread is idealism is more parsimonious and more reasonable to accept. we already must postulate the existence of consciousness, so why postulate other unnecessary substances?Who's doing that? I didn't posit any unnecessary substances... like a Super Duper Conscious Disconnected From Any Material Entity And That Presumably Floats In A Vacuum. Nope, that stupid idea was all yours, bud.
(February 4, 2015 at 11:23 am)Rational AKD Wrote: what part of it is ad hoc? you simply can't make accusations without substantiating them or at least directing them so we know what you're talking about.See above.
(February 4, 2015 at 11:23 am)Rational AKD Wrote: no you are not aware of any materials that exist independent of minds. all you have is mind, so you can't think of something without postulating mind. exactly what part of introspection implies materialism?The part that says all evidence of physics demands that a lot of material objects are, oh, just some billions years older than my mind.
(February 4, 2015 at 11:23 am)Rational AKD Wrote: if that were true, then you shouldn't be fooled by hallucinations because they can't have any characteristics of matter...
No idea what you're babbling about here.(February 4, 2015 at 11:23 am)Rational AKD Wrote: how would you know? you can't verify anything beyond your perception which matter is beyond the scope of.The same way I would know that my parents were born before I was. Is this hard for you or something?
(February 4, 2015 at 11:23 am)Rational AKD Wrote: "I am right because I am right" good argument... i'm impressed...I'm sure it doesn't take a lot to impress a Jesus nut.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
