Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

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Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

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RE: Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

February 4, 2015 at 6:02 pm

(February 3, 2015 at 1:16 pm)Rational AKD Wrote: 1. if metaphysical solipsism is true, then all that exists is your mind and everything else is derived.
2. a consciousness that is truly fundamental would be in control of everything given 1.
3. "I" am not remotely in control of everything.
4. therefore my mind must be derived from something else.

Am I in control of my body, or is this something else in control of my body?

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