(February 7, 2015 at 7:05 pm)Chas Wrote: Wait, what? I'm quite sure I said vaccines have been proven effective.Sorry, poorly worded. I didn't mean to say that. What I meant to say is, "I'm not saying people shouldn't get vaccines or that... they're not proven highly effective." "As Chas says" was intended, though not written, as agreement that they are effective, and I wouldn't say anything to the contrary (unless I had evidence, and I don't).
(February 7, 2015 at 7:24 am)Chas Wrote: The effectiveness of vaccines in controlling disease has been demonstrated beyond doubt.
Why, yes I did.

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