(February 8, 2015 at 6:10 am)Rational AKD Wrote:(February 6, 2015 at 4:23 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Do you control whether you feel sleepy?obviously there are bodily functions you don't control... and there are some you do. I really don't see your point in pointing this out other than to childishly say 'gotcha.' do you have a point?
Do you control whether you feel hungry?
Do you control whether you feel frightened?
Do you control whether you feel angry?
Do you control whether you feel sad?
Do you control whether you feel lonely?
In your defense against solipsism, you said that if consciousness were truly fundamental (to all), that it would be in control of everything. My point is that we have conscious states that we aren't fully in control of. It would seem by your logic that this means consciousness isn't fundamental; there is something 'underneath' that at times is in control of our conscious states. That would mean consciousness isn't fundamental; there's something more primary. If I were a physicalist, I'd say that something is hormones. Injecting alcohol induces drunkness; injecting lactic acid induces panic. It would seem from this that the physical body is primary.
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