RE: So did Atheism + bite the dust?
February 8, 2015 at 1:38 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2015 at 1:43 pm by Dystopia.)
(February 8, 2015 at 1:33 pm)abaris Wrote:The problem with the OP isn't just the wording, it's the fact these people aren't even taken seriously. I have no knowledge on the atheist movement being high-jacked or poisoned by outside groups - Like someone said previously, few people are even adhering to this movement ---> From my experience this isn't just a radical branch of feminism, it's a lot of unfounded criticism on people who hold more social power regardless of how good or bad those people really are - Rich people, white people, straight people, etc.(February 8, 2015 at 8:20 am)TheMessiah Wrote: It seems so --- unless I'm mistaken, a lot of Feminazi Social Justice Warriors tried to hijack the Atheist community and it got ugly; but it seems that it's gone now and things reverted to the way they were.
Is it?
Oh well. Your Rush Limbough attitude and choice of wording doesn't exactly make you case. If there even is one.
Not gonna take this seriously.
Quote:As far as gaming being under threat by these people, that's bullshit plain and simple. If gamers want their hobby to be treated seriously - to be treated as art as so many claim it is - then it's fair game for critique on those levels. That includes feminist critique. And, despite gaming slowly becoming more inclusive across the board, it is still overwhelmingly misogynistic. It's still overwhelmingly whitewashed. It still has miles to go in including and fairly depicting LGBT people. That doesn't mean games are bad and that you should feel bad, but that you should be aware of what the game is saying - both explicitly and implicitly.I agree with this (I'm a gamer) - I think the gaming community is very hostile to any criticism whether it is against representation or simply violence related to games. Gamers hate when games get criticized for doing something poorly. I think we shouldn't do that - We should listen to constructive criticism. If people want gamers to be art, you can't expect to be taken seriously when you shut all criticism.
Quote:The rest of GamerGate is just idiots not understanding how the media works. They saw headlines like "Gaming/Gamers is/are dead" as an actual fact or threat instead of the hyperbolic hooks they actually were. And even funnier, gaming as a lot of gamers knew it is dead. Far more women and older people are playing than ever before. Gaming 'dies' every 10-15 years. I know. I've seen it. First, it was the arcades as home PCs became popular and affordable. Then PC gaming as consoles overtook them, and were far easier to deal with. Then, it was the advent of the cool gamer - the frat boys playing Halo and Madden and the decline of action/adventure/role-playing games. Now? It's older casual gamers almost split equally between the sexes. And, it's not like those previous generations are completely gone. PC gaming, for example, has made a huge comeback thanks to Steam and modern plug-and-play/autodetect technology.Praise your argument
Quote:But, yeah... whenever I hear "SJWs are ruining it (whatever it may be) for everyone else," my immediate reaction is that the person complaining was acting like a dickhead and didn't like being called out on it. It may not be a fair first impression, but after dealing with GamerGate people, that's where I go.[/hide]Yeah, I think the term gets thrown unjustly many times. Giving the easy example of a woman saying she doesn't like being harassed and a man says "that's a compliment you bitch; that's a first world problem fuck you feminazi".
I have seen stupidity coming from both hardcore SJ and hardcore anti-SJ (right wing libertarians and so on) and honestly I don't associate with either.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you