So did Atheism + bite the dust?

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This is not about being ideological - it's about knowing at least who you should not support. In my country there are not MRA's but the fact is they do a lot of terrible shit. The articles I linked explain it... On the other hand you're saying that this ideology known as atheism + was increasing but I see no proof of it. most atheists will probably be liberal but not too liberal, just in the middle. Someone said they were 150 or something like that members online at the most - On other atheist forums it can be something like 5000 members online. It's not comparable.

It is about ideology and opinion.

If it's about knowing who you should not support, then Anita Sarkeesian, a known liar and fraud is one of them. The MRA's have never been classified as a hate group, is a testament to the illogic of the third-wave Feminists hijacking it.

I have linked a multitude of articles and videos in regards to Social Justice Warriors and what-not so I really needn't expand. All I have gathered from your posts is that you dislike Conservatives and take a different stance, you haven't really convinced my of anything, hence I see this as an ideological difference which will not resolve in agreeance.

Not ideological. I'm not promoting feminism in particular or any ideology - I'm going where the evidence points; and the evidence points that men have it easier and I, as a man myself that has been living in a western society, have witness personally gender roles and how they affect social perceptions - And I know for a fact that my benefits for being a man are excessively unfair. This is not guilt, it's merely acknowledging a fact, it's loving and respecting women, including my beloved companion and my mother + sister and wanting to create a more equal, more fair society for them to live in. It's empathy and sense of justice that drives me. I hate, injustice, and sexism is a lame position that reflects weak-minds

As for MRA's being a hate group - That depends on the perspective. A conservative will probably not think that but then again some white supremacist groups claim that they're not a hate group. It depends on the perspective. I've already shown you articles that debunk MRA's - If you want to defend them, be my guest, but it's a bad decision.


Most atheist are not conservatives but it's not because of religion specifically - It is because conservatism as a political ideology promotes tribalism and zero change, as well as neo-liberalism. It is something atheists don't support due to critical thinking.