RE: So did Atheism + bite the dust?
February 10, 2015 at 8:40 pm
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2015 at 8:45 pm by Dystopia.)
Alice, without specialization results are miserable. A single group claiming to be pro-equality for everyone will not accomplish much without sub-groups that deal with people's issues specifically. The way I see it, feminism is a sub-sect of Egalitarianism, so is LGBT's rights, black activism, etc, but it's positive for groups to exist that focus on specific groups. I think men's rights groups could be useful if they focused on working with feminists to erase gender roles. (I don't see a reason why someone who is a feminist shouldn't be an egalitarian - It makes sense because feminism is usually anti-racist, anti-homophobia, anti-transphobia and pro-multiculturalism - Which are reasonable ideas for an egalitarian society)
The way I see it feminism doesn't even mean activism. It can mean simply that you support certain branches of the movement or a specific feminist celebrity. You can be a feminist and not engage in activism. I like having my feminine traits as a man (I have my masculine as well) and because of that I'll only benefit from feminist activism (Now I can cry at peace and appreciate works of art without being called a pussy)
Small edit - Losty, I know you don't like gender roles as criteria to define genders - In my opinion, until a single role persists a movement like feminism will not hurt anyone. I don't want people to stop being masculine or feminine, but I want people to be able to choose and not get characteristics lumped into their gender. This is actually important to you since you have a sexuality view that is considered by society as slutty and "impure", so you get what I'm saying
(February 10, 2015 at 8:39 pm)Losty Wrote: Alice I disagree wholey. Your opinion only makes sense if you narrow your thoughts to the US and few (but not all) other first world nations. Feminism still very much has a place in this world. It could do a lot better if a strong independent woman could give an awakening slap to the face of every tumblr person. (Tumblrian? Tumblrite? Idk)
The way I see it feminism doesn't even mean activism. It can mean simply that you support certain branches of the movement or a specific feminist celebrity. You can be a feminist and not engage in activism. I like having my feminine traits as a man (I have my masculine as well) and because of that I'll only benefit from feminist activism (Now I can cry at peace and appreciate works of art without being called a pussy)
Small edit - Losty, I know you don't like gender roles as criteria to define genders - In my opinion, until a single role persists a movement like feminism will not hurt anyone. I don't want people to stop being masculine or feminine, but I want people to be able to choose and not get characteristics lumped into their gender. This is actually important to you since you have a sexuality view that is considered by society as slutty and "impure", so you get what I'm saying
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