RE: So did Atheism + bite the dust?
February 10, 2015 at 8:57 pm
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2015 at 8:59 pm by Dystopia.)
Quote:Your narrative about poor, abused women who just want to be treated equally sounds pretty compelling-- except that's not the kind of feminists the word is talking about. I've been on the receiving end of plenty of feminists who demand equality, who refuse to let men define them, and who expect themselves to be accepted, unconditionally, with loving arms from all of society. And they immediately go on to tell men what real men should be, to call men pigs because they like pretty women, to call them misogynists if they don't want to be the "bottom." They refuse to engage in any argument about gender unless it's understood from the top that men have fucked up the world, and that no matter what the issue, it must be assumed to be a man's fault.I totally agree with you on this. I think feminists ought to consider men's opinion and help because having allies benefits your cause. An interesting notion is that women can be sexist against other women as well, yeah - Women can promote sexism like blacks can promote racism against other blacks. Just look at slut-shaming between girls. I don't like the argument that it's men's fault myself because it's society's fault as a whole and there are many men like me that hold a positive view on gender equality, so yeah I become offended if a feminist thinks I'm ignorant on the issue because I'm a man. Using the example of rape - I dislike it when a feminist doesn't consider my point because rape is a crime that I've studied a lot in my 2nd year law school, I know all the myths and all the facts, so I'm not ignorant on the issue (and my opinions highly benefit their cause)
Using your example of being overly vocal - That depends. Do you search social networks a lot? Do you visit Rebecca Watson's channel? If not, it's not very likely you'll hear their voices often. In my country I've never been confronted by feminism like this - Most campaigns are aimed at issues like domestic violence (a problem where I live) or workplace discrimination against women in high profile careers (against pregnant women in particular)
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you