(February 10, 2015 at 7:03 pm)Losty Wrote:(February 10, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(February 10, 2015 at 6:27 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Maybe the term is relevant here: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/...51442.html
Edit: If it's true, which I'm not really sure about that.
The correct response is (from your link):
The two ideas of feminism and misandry are separate and distinct, as well as being independent of each other (i.e., neither entails the other, nor does either entail the negation of the other). The same is true of "atheist" and "misandrist," "white" and "misandrist," "tall" and "misandrist," and etc. In all of these cases, it would be a mistake to try to put them together as if they were somehow connected. And that is what is wrong with the term "feminazi," as it attempts to put together two unrelated things as if they were connected.
- Jenni @lifeofjennibeck
Misandry means hatred of men. Feminism means equality of genders. "Feminist Has Abortion Because Child Was a Boy" NO. She is a misandrist
People should expand their vocabulary, so that they can use the correct word, rather than use a word that stupidly associates feminism with nazis.
I'm not really sure I see how you can be a feminist and a misandrist.
Viewed in a certain way, I can understand why someone might think that. However, they are fundamentally different ideas. One is about rights, and the other is about feelings. Granted, some people hate groups of people such that they do not want those group to have any rights, but that need not be the case. And with feminism, the focus is on female rights anyway, but we need not worry too much about that, as I have an example of this basic concept that works even without that.
Now, I do not personally know any feminists who are misandrists, but, being a man (and white, which may be relevant to the story I will tell in a moment), a misandrist would likely avoid me, so it should be no surprise that I have none among my acquaintances. I do know feminists, and even (*gasp*!) lesbian feminists. I have dined with them in my home. None of them are misandrist (despite the fact that some idiots imagine that lesbian feminists must be misandrists; they are idiots, and so you need not concern yourself with their beliefs). One of these lesbian feminists has even said that I am her second favorite person (What an insult! Only second to favorite!).
However, I have an example of someone who was in favor of rights to a group, and yet was bigoted against that group. (I say "was," because he is now dead.) He was a white man who was in favor of rights for black people, but was nevertheless a racist. He was so much in favor of rights for black people, that he was active in the civil rights movement in the 1960's and took part in furthering rights for black people. However, he—how shall I state this?—would have been less than pleased had his daughter married a black man. (That is an understatement, but I do not wish to say more on that.) I somehow doubt that he was the only white man who felt as he did, who also acted as he did, in promoting the cause of black people. So, a racist against black people can be in favor of equal rights for black people.
With this example I think you will be able to understand how it is possible to be both in favor of equal rights and yet be bigoted against one of the groups for which one favors equal rights.
But, again, I do not personally know any feminist misandrists, nor any misandrists, for that matter. But the concepts are clear and distinct enough, that they could theoretically exist in one person somewhere. From what I have seen in real life, typically, the women who men accuse of being misandrists are really just not doormats, and the men making the accusations are typically misogynists. Misogyny seems far more common than misandry. Of course, that is just personal observation, and not the result of any scientific study on the matter. But I suspect that a study of measurable things, like who is more likely to violently abuse who, would tend to support my merely anecdotal observations.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.