Detecting design or intent in nature

[bennyboy]

Intellects create evolutionary systems. Check. All evolutionary systems are therefore probably made by intellect. No check, as it's an obvious false syllogism.

You're leaving out the part that we have no observations of naturally occurring evolutionary systems....which is a little underhanded.

Bullshit we don't. We have books full of observations about actual evolution. What you're crying about is that we weren't around to see it being "implemented" by an intellectual lifeform. Well, that's only a problem to you, since everyone else here understands that evolution is a statistical process, and does not require intellect. That doesn't prove it WASN'T made by God-- only that there's no reason to believe that it was.

If you claim biological evolution is a naturally occurring(and here that means without intellect)....it is an atheistic faith based belief. The truth is we didn't observe the implementation of that system so we can't say it needed intellect or it didn't.

We have faith that there ISN'T a God? Maybe, if by faith you mean complete lack of evidence.

We can only say it is likely that all evolutionary require intellect. Or that it is likely not all evolutionary systems require intellect.

Observation supports the proposition that it is likely all evolutionary systems require intellect......and folks that is just the way it is. You will have to deal with it.

Now you're just a parrot. We heard you the first 1000 times you said this, and it's still wrong. There are no examples of intellect creating "evolutionary systems" that aren't also evolved, carbon-based organisms on Earth. But your assertion that this a chicken-and-egg scenario is clearly mistaken, because biological evolution is the principle by which those organisms were brought into being-- so in 100% of cases, the intellects arose out of evolution, not vice versa. Even your car example required beings that had already evolved for its creation.

So unless you want to argue that God is the fully-evolved being who paradoxically never needed to be evolved, you're clearly false.

Kudos on the argumentum ad nauseam, though. 100 pages, and you still haven't come up for air. Not even an ostrich could achieve that.