RE: So did Atheism + bite the dust?
February 17, 2015 at 11:36 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2015 at 11:44 pm by Dystopia.)
(February 17, 2015 at 11:29 pm)Losty Wrote:(February 16, 2015 at 5:40 am)Irrational Wrote: So your problem is that they are just really fucking loud? What a silly objection to have regarding feminists.
Do you want feminists to be quiet and meek like all women are expected to be by traditional gender expectations while men are the only ones allowed to be aggressive?
By the way, regarding the alarm. It's not dishonesty if the intention was to just disrupt the meeting and not to alert to some fire.
....I don't have a problem with feminists at all. I am not a fan of people who hate men and go around being loud obnoxious douchbags giving feminists a bad name. I am feminist. I don't take the label though because I don't care to be associated with a label that most people view in a negative light. The loud people that I don't like, I dislike them because they hurt the very cause they claim to stand for.
By the way regarding the fire alarm, if you pull an alarm that is intended to alert people of a fire, and you know there is no fire, that is dishonest.
I wanted to say this before but I forgot - If we took seriously all groups that pull fire alarms falsely we would hate a lot of people. Kids do it all the time.
I don't support the no true scotsman fallacy for feminists either - Let's face it, there are some retarded rad-fems out there. Curiously those groups oppose a lot of things that other feminists support most of the time (for example radical feminists are sometimes trans exclusionary, are against pornography, prostitution, getting married out of free will, etc.).
People also seem to confuse man hater with female supremacism - You can want equality and be a man hater, and you can want superiority and not hate men (just see them as inferior). By this logic you could be a feminist and a man hater, but you cannot be a feminist and want female supremacism, that's like saying you are an atheist and believe in the Christian god. It sounds completely contradicting. A feminist can hate and dislike men and she is a feminist, but a feminist cannot search for female superiority, that's a whole different movement and it doesn't fit the cultural, historical, social and common sense definition of feminism. It's like saying atheist = anti-theist.
Something that I feel is worth pointing out just of curiosity:
There's a big difference between misandry and misogyny - Misandry is the hatred of men for being men. A misandrist hates men, men suck, men are lame, etc. Misogyny isn't just the hate of women for being women - It's (mostly) the hate of women for not conforming to magical, outdated gender roles expectations. Misogyny always comes in a context of prejudice against women because she doesn't conform to X or Y. "Women are dumber than men. Women are the weaker sex. Women are only good for procreation. Women are whores (as opposed to the role of being pure). She is so bossy." Etc etc etc.
(February 17, 2015 at 11:30 pm)Sionnach Wrote: Did Messiah bite the dust?
I hope so.
Messiahs are myths
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you