RE: Christian- 90% of us suck
February 20, 2015 at 2:35 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2015 at 2:39 am by dennyg.)
(February 14, 2015 at 11:15 am)whateverist Wrote: Welcome aboard progressive xtian person.
If you don't mind a clarifying question so soon upon your arrival, I have one. I'm not going to ask for justification for your belief in god nor challenge your criteria. But I would like to know how you relate to the god you believe in, if in fact you do. I assume you were raised in a way that fostered belief in a god. Nothing wrong with that, I was too. But I guess I wonder what it is that sustains that belief now.
Sorry for the delay. I've been busy.
Tbh, I can't really find any evidence FOR God's existence other than the old reliable: If not God then how did [insert mysterious event] happen?
I like to think that's the point though. If God proved his existence to you then what role is there for faith?
I think a ton of the OT is metaphors and super hyperbole of things that happened so that they are more mythology than history. The NT is easier for me to literally believe, though the miracles can never be proven and require a leap of faith.
In terms of my relation to God, I think that He created natural laws and forces and that, unless maybe in extraordinary circumstances, He doesn't interfere with them. This is how I explain the classic "why do bad things happen to good people?" There are natural processes that God doesn't disrupt, and sometimes bad things happen.
I believe that miracles are possible, but are enacted through the existing laws and forces of the universe. Like the plagues of Exodus: I've researched it enough to know that every plague can be scientifically explained. Even the parting of the Reed (not Red) Sea can be explained by an incoming tsunami.
However the odds of all of these things happening in rapid succession as Moses, with no knowledge of modern science, was warning Pharoah of them, is too little to be pure coincidence. That's how I believe God affects the world: indirectly through nature.
I'll see if there are any more questions to answer.
Thanks guys for the warm welcome.
(February 14, 2015 at 11:43 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Welcome! And, prepare yourself for being told by our more vehement Christians that you're not a "true" Christian.
I'm battle tested. Been called a heretic many times
(February 14, 2015 at 12:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Hello, there.
Don't listen to the prof. He's an idiot.
As for you....
Quote:Basically I still believe in God
I guess the question is "why?"
I was raised a Christian and as of yet I haven't been able to debunk the existence of God despite always exploring the atheist point of view. You can never prove it though. If I'd been born to atheist parents I 100% guarantee I'd be one too
