The main points of Christianity?

[CristW]

1. What is the point of describing the FOODS SACRIFICED TO ROMAN IDOLS? The Book of Revelation is therefore meant for the early Christian audience not for a future audience! (Otherwords, you have been excluded.)

The Churches of revelations were used for examples of future churches, The Jewish Christians believe it was sinful to eat meat sacrificed to false gods. In that belief God tells them you will be judge as you judge, a warning to the future churches, live by the scriptures, for I will judge you by what you want to make doctrine.

1. No, the time (of condition) has been established by the early verse - Revelation 1:7 - The error within the verse is "THEY also which pierced him..." despite other parts of the verse, this particular part hints of false prophecy. The other verse in reference - Revelation 2:14(Revelation 2:20) - is telling the church about the "sin" of participating in the Roman marketplace. Pergamos congregation was being tested greatly! (Just compare the situation with the other six congregations). The problem with the congregations(Churches) in these locations was that they were being assimilated into Roman society through the Roman marketplace where pagan idols stood while food was being prepared. It seems that this "sin", the social struggle in Pergamos, was a distinguishing factor compared with the other six. The "sin" is described as "fornication" = eating foods sacrificed to idols. Your response has nothing to do with the ACTUAL words said.

2. There are no ROMAN FOOD marketplace and especially there are no ROMAN PAGAN STATUES at the food marketplace. If there were today would you still go?

No foods are off limits to me, the only reason I might not eat some foods at certain times, is to keep a fellow brother/sister from stumbling if they believe it's wrong to eat that food. I deal with this all the time I have a good friend who is an Adventist.

2. The last order (the book of Revelation which followed James' last order) concerned keeping away from those particular foods mentioned. You would then have to admit that the Book of Revelation did not recognize Paul's version. You would also have to admit that Paul was against James' order. Then you would be in violation of the Book of Revelation's last command (supposedly Jesus' own words).

3. The main issue for the early Christians then was FOODS SACRIFICED UNDER ROMAN PAGAN STATUES. This was the repeating theme for John in the Book of Revelation. Of course, it was the last book I made this clear in my earlier post but probably I failed to make this very clear to you.

I know what you were trying to do, I'm not gullible enough to take your word for it. I've dealt with this for years and know what the whole of the NT says. Your failure is in trying to confuse the scriptures, it might work on those who haven't spent the time studying the scriptures to find the true meanings within them. It will work on those who do not believe, they're gullible enough to accept things untrue because they believe it hurts Christianity. As I said earlier it was meant for those churches and the ones to come. The book of Revelation was written after Paul's death, so there could be nor doctrine battle going on between Paul and John. You also have missed something very important, John is told to write down what he sees, not what he thinks is correct.

3. Wow! you said: ..."and the ones to come". This means that all Churches are in violation of the last command even the Adventists (I am sure they still follow Paul's order (anti-order/command) concerning food violation). John writes it down then it is a "command" and this is my point. Jesus' last command is in agreement with James' order therefore Paul's command is corrected ...or abrogated by the last command (Book of Revelation). This would mean that some books written by Paul are incorrect but then again he did admit he may have been wrong (2nd Timothy 3:16). Or we could then assume that may be all Churches today are wrong in doctrine. But let us go to the Adventists in which a command they themselves may not all be following (Matthew 24:20 / Sabbath regulation concerning traveling has to be followed. How many Adventists, you know do not use autos or modern transportation to get to church especially during the Sabbath? Or even any church who says that Sabbath is now Sunday?)

4. Therefore, the Book of Revelation is a false prophecy concerning Jesus physical return. Christianity only has the moral lessons and that's it. These moral lessons are the main points: NO WARMONGERING and NO HOARDING OF WEALTH!

Christians are not to war monger nor should they hoard wealth, but those were not the points you were making, you were saying Christians were not to even defend themselves against evil people or have enough money to make them comfortable, the scriptures do not teach such nonsense.
Please explain the entire book, give us Christians how all the prophesies have been fulfilled. Here's a question when does Jesus move to the sanctuary.

4. Yes, the verses against Self-Defense: Matthew 5:21 (Ok, let us say that "kill' meant murder), Matthew 5:38-45 (These verses are VERY CLEAR), Matthew 26:52 (This is more within context knowing the situation), John 15:13.
Against wealth: Matthew 6:19-24, Matthew 19:24, and Acts 4:32-35. (*Note: This is against (Hoarding of) wealth but the verses are PRO-distribution of wealth. Even though, we could also observe the command of earning - 2nd Thessalonians 3:8-11, the problem with the previous verses, from Thessalonians, is that in a recession or depression it may be impossible to find jobs. Furthermore, in that particular social environment, it may have been the case that many Christians were not offered jobs or many kept their faith hidden. Therefore, creating the situation were many ignored commands concerning the "Food" order which is highlighted later in the Book of Revelation).

Therefore, making it highly improbable to be Christian in this modern world. More importantly, it means that they expected Jesus' to return early around 140 A.D.! Knowing all the other conditionals.

Therefore, the Islamic message is also false because one of the doctrines within Islam is the return of Jesus.

Judaism has also been exposed as false because of the issue surrounding the Temple (within the NT and the groups competing against the early Christian movement).

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