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Yeah we've had this discussion before I think I make it very clear that I'm talking about what you can assume about someone who is an atheist at a minimum, and that they can make further claims. We only use gnostic atheism as a shorthand for "claims to know there are no gods" which is not a direct response to the question, "do you believe in gods". It's a response of, "No, AND I know there is no gods." it's adding an extra proposition. Don't you think I make it clear that some atheists may choose to be gnostic atheists? I'm trying to take your feedback on board, but I don't understand the objection. Atheists can hold any further beliefs or make knowledge claims. and it's still atheism+something else, what is special about that particular extra claim of knowledge?

For example, you could be a mythicist atheist and believe all gods are a result of previous mythology, what's the difference?

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Would anyone else like to offer an opinion about this? Am I unclear in any way?