Photons and determinism, part 2

[bennyboy]

No, but in the observer's framework, what is being observed is reality. In the framework of something traveling at the speed of light, the universe is a singularity.

In the framework of the photon, there is no time, no distance, no observation, no nothing. From the photon's perspective, it never existed, therefore, there is no observation to be had.

Okay, good. Now we are getting somewhere.

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Attempt 2:

The observer observes their view of reality which is not any more/less correct than another observer's view.

The affects on the observer occur when the observer changes inertial reference frames.

Okay. So since a photon never exists at any other speed than "c," it is not changing inertial reference frames, and therefore there is nothing like a Lorentz transformation to be considered. Is that what you're saying?

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Well then, it is up to you to go around and fill that blank huh?

As to the OP, like others said, it is folly to set up a frame of reference in a photon, simply because our working theories are... incomplete. What I find disturbing, is the accumulation of "what if?", when the correct approach is to figure out a way to draw more data, to better complete our knowledge.

I respectfully disagree with your unwillingness to look at mathematical ideas and apply them to philosophy (or science). "What if" is the foundation of all modern physics, starting with Einstein. I'd say he represents the turning point at which math PRECEDES physical observations, rather than vice versa. As with anyone else, I reserve the right to adjust or completely discard my ideas as better or entirely new observations become available.