[quote='The_Flying_Skeptic' pid='88245' dateline='1282352013']
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What do you think?
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The fine tuning argument is the latest attempt to prove god from inferring design. It has a number of serious problems. The most obvious are that:
1 If the universe is truly deterministic then the 'chances' of events unfolding this way are 100% certain
2 It misuses probablity theory to say gee whizz look at how improbable this is. Improbable things happen all the time and continue to do so, it is an after the fact argument and has no predictive power
3 If true then its an argument against design as the universe needed fine tuning and wasn't perfect at creation
4 Even if true because of 3 above the designer wasn't perfect because he created something incompetently that it needed tuning
5 Even if true it says nothing for the designer, it could have been anything
6 It says nothing for the purpose of the universe. The most successful carbon based life is bacteria, the most prominent structures are black holes, and this universe is the most perfrect black hole generator
7 99.999999%+ of the universe is a very hostile place to us. What makes us think we were the object of it?
8 The universe is doomed to entropic heat death
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What do you think?
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The fine tuning argument is the latest attempt to prove god from inferring design. It has a number of serious problems. The most obvious are that:
1 If the universe is truly deterministic then the 'chances' of events unfolding this way are 100% certain
2 It misuses probablity theory to say gee whizz look at how improbable this is. Improbable things happen all the time and continue to do so, it is an after the fact argument and has no predictive power
3 If true then its an argument against design as the universe needed fine tuning and wasn't perfect at creation
4 Even if true because of 3 above the designer wasn't perfect because he created something incompetently that it needed tuning
5 Even if true it says nothing for the designer, it could have been anything
6 It says nothing for the purpose of the universe. The most successful carbon based life is bacteria, the most prominent structures are black holes, and this universe is the most perfrect black hole generator
7 99.999999%+ of the universe is a very hostile place to us. What makes us think we were the object of it?
8 The universe is doomed to entropic heat death
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
