Reverse Pascals Wager

[Captain Scarlet]

This may suprise you but I do understand the theory behind evolution I just do not accept it.

That started out so well and then you said this:

There is not one shred of proof that life could have come about without help.

And with that one sentence you show hat you really don't understand the theory of evolution through natural selection or you would have known that that is not what the theory is about.

I know the theory is about natural selection and parts of natural selection I agree with but why do you say that evolution is not part of spontaneous life. I thought you did not believe in creation. I thought it was either creation or evolution.

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Abiogenesis has never gotten off the ground and it never will, man's endeavor to recreate what scientist believe happened to bring about the first life form is interference by man(giving a helping hand) and that is not spontaneous anything it is simply interference. As I see it abiogenesis is part of evolution. There are only two sides to this argument creation or abiogenesis/evolution.
I see no need to apologize for stating you're a child, you act like one that will not accept anything but total agreement with your beliefs, here where I live we call that being a brat.

Theres only one gent throwing his toys out the pram on this thread. I'm patient though. Those who resort to petty name calling have lost the argument..and here you go again.

You made the claim you understood evolution and did not accept it. Your stated reason was infact the failure of science (thus far) to assemble a convincing theory on abiogenesis. Clearly not the same thing as evolutionary theory. I have asked you once so I'll ask again (politely as ever), to identify the problems you have with evolutionary theory or whether you infact accept it.

If you are going to come back with.....:
- "have you ever seen a cat giving birth to a dog",
- "no one has seen macro evolution",
- "if evolution is true why are there still chimps"
...you'll need to file them in the same bin as crocoduck and Ray Comforts brillant thesis on the banana.

I don't ask for total agreement with my position, as you will see from other threads. Science is a discipline steeped in humility, the leaders of religions on the other hand are staggeringly arrogant (as are some of their adherents) who claim knowledge they do not have. Like you they do not like being called out on this. And now you have asserted Abiogenesis will fail with no knowledge at all. A scientific endeavour having had around 50 years to make the advances it has with limited funding. Religion has had over 2000 years having near unlimited funds from dubious sources and has totally failed. It is only possible to respect, respectable opinions. Debunking evolutionary theory with vaccuous statements is not respectable.