Photons and determinism, part 2

[bennyboy]

If you have 100 photons ,released in 0.1 second intervals, from the moon, all heading toward the same eye on earth (takes about 1.2 seconds), how many will actually hit the eye? According to your logic, all 100 of them.

I've said nothing like this, and I didn't realize that your misunderstanding of my idea was so deep. I think there is a total disconnect between what you think I'm saying and what I'm actually saying.

I'm saying that since a photon is timeless, it is not subject to causal influences, and that wherever it happens to land, that's where it was always going to land, right from the start. Therefore, even if QM events can lead to a butterfly effect (for example), the apparently random or unpredictable states cannot be non-deterministic.

Determinism requires that the same initial conditions leads to the same results.

No. Determinism requires that one initial condition can only lead to one result.

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The hitting the eye isn't the proof. It is the lack of the passage of time which means we must mold our understanding of the universe primarily around light.

Basically, we do. Think of light as the 'numeral one' of QM. Everything in mathematics is based on numeral one. Yet the numeral one is mostly useless on it's own. Complex operations with one, basically yield one.

Right. And I'm extending that scientific reality into a philosophical argument: "c" therefore determinism.