(March 1, 2015 at 8:17 pm)bennyboy Wrote:First off, "not subject to causal influences" is violation of the other postulate of relativity, i.e. the physics laws remain the same independent of the inertial reference frame.(March 1, 2015 at 2:33 pm)Surgenator Wrote: If you have 100 photons ,released in 0.1 second intervals, from the moon, all heading toward the same eye on earth (takes about 1.2 seconds), how many will actually hit the eye? According to your logic, all 100 of them.I've said nothing like this, and I didn't realize that your misunderstanding of my idea was so deep. I think there is a total disconnect between what you think I'm saying and what I'm actually saying.
I'm saying that since a photon is timeless, it is not subject to causal influences, and that wherever it happens to land, that's where it was always going to land, right from the start. Therefore, even if QM events can lead to a butterfly effect (for example), the apparently random or unpredictable states cannot be non-deterministic.
Second, you're giving more weight to the photon's reference frame than any other one. If you want relativity to apply, the reference frame should NOT matter. The fact that I can create a casual influence in my frame, means that a casual influence has to exist in the photon reference frame.
Quote:Repeating the experiment should not change the results. So the same initial conditions lead to the same results in a deterministic system.Quote:Determinism requires that the same initial conditions leads to the same results.No. Determinism requires that one initial condition can only lead to one result.