(March 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote: Again for those who are slow to understand, the example of a war re enactment was used to underline the importance of repersenting both sides in a rememberance. That what war re enactments are. That is why I also used the proper example of the Germans and Jews both being repersented in the Auschwitz.
Again with out true repersentation of both sides, what you have ceases to be a rememberance of things past, and you replace it with propaganda.
I am not using the propaganda as a hot topic/elicite a response word. Propaganda's literal defination is based on those actions.
prop·a·gan·da
/ˌpräpəˈɡandə/
noun
noun: propaganda; noun: Propaganda
1.derogatory information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
If the otherside is not repersented in anyway, then you have a bias that is being used to promote a particular political point.
Again That Is Why German Involvement Is So Accuratly Portrayed In The Properly Done Auschwitz rememberance.
So, if I'm reading through all the ad hominem correctly, you are stating that without naming and remembering the men in the Alabama State Troopers who didn't beat African Americans, we aren't remembering the event correctly, and we are promoting propaganda in remembering and vilifying the state laws that required men to count the bubbles on a bar of soap, or spell non-existent words, take literacy tests which doctors and lawyers in the African American community were failing, or to travel to the state capitol in order to register to vote. We are promoting propaganda in walking over that bridge 50 years later in memorializing the men and women that made it possible to do that without fear without also memorializing the people who simply didn't beat other humans, some of whom stood by and did nothing while others did?
As far as your definition of propaganda, what in my OP was derogatory, biased, or misleading? What about this march was any of that? Again, it wasn't a re-enactment. We weren't marching in order to create a historically accurate recreation of what happened in 1965. We weren't acting anything out. Otherwise it would have been a march to Montgomery, 54 miles away. It was a celebration. It needn't represent anything more than feeling camaraderie between men and women of all stripes in a reflection of unity.
(March 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote:I did not refute that, now did I? I agree that the producers of Selma overly dramatized that portion of the narrative. Maybe they shouldn't have. Probably they shouldn't have. What I refuted is that the movie was race baiting or not representing any white people who were on this side of history.
Appearently it was a different movie than what Joseph A. Califano Jr. of the Washington Post or JENNIFER SCHUESSLER of the NY Times saw as well. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/t...story.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/t...story.html
(March 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote: And I did not say that, did I? I simply asked where 60's police officers also repersented in that march? Because with out them King, jackson, and all the other civial rights leaders would have been strung up long before they became house hold names.Wow. Are you saying there was a movement by a police force in the south to protect civil rights leaders without the federal government stepping in? And Jackson was beaten and shot to death by the Alabama State Troopers during a peaceful march.
You seem to be suggesting that the very act of not murdering other people is something we should be remembering people for. Give me some names we should memorialize for not lynching and we will dedicate a Wiki page for them.
(March 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote: :Jerkoff: you do even know what is being discussed do you? You want to argue the typical white/black crap, and I'm pointing to all the grey that 'you people' want to ignore to push white/black propaganda.
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What I'm trying to bring attention to is the truth that propagandists seem to forget. That if not for the 'bad guys' in today's media (police and goverment officals) civial rights would remain a dream that we dare not speak of. Movies like selma tend to be more hate inspiring and segergational than educational or informitive. Then to put on a remberance march without proper repersentation of both side reaks of brain washing!
(March 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote: Educate your self before you speak next time. just do a simple google search before you respond in a forum, to at least see where your opponet is comming from. Otherwise you look the fool when someone like me provides legit evidence to support the unpopular thing I just said.
Drich, you are the last person on this forum who should instruct another person to educate themselves. When you are telling me to see where my "opponet is comming from" and spelling words like "goverment officals" and "civial" and "segergational" and "informitive" and "repersentation" and "reaks" all within three consecutive sentences, you cannot possibly be trying to malign my level of education. A third grader spells and forms sentences better than you. I am quite educated, and I read a lot of history. You are right that this isn't solely a black/white issue. It is a human issue.
(March 10, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote: Again, your a douche for not knowing this is not a black or white discussion. It is a discussion of the truth, and how the truth is being hidden away for black and white discussions.
If you want to pretend that racism wasn't as bad as it was or that it doesn't continue today, you just go ahead and do that. Just don't try and represent it as "truth." You are just making yourself look as dumb as you undoubtedly are.
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