(March 10, 2015 at 9:08 pm)professor Wrote: Remember this is a remarkably fast forum.
I eat dinner, take a nap in the bathtub, watch some Youtube, come back here, and you guys are figuring we are refraining from commenting.
No so.
Lake of fire?
Ever seen the inside of a volcano?
That is where O and the pope will end up (the Antichrist and his false prophet).
It says they will be tormented forever (remember they have NOT begun their final deception and persecution of those who will resist them).
Sounds like Hell to me.
I do not know if all the wicked end up with them, there is a Second death later, but the destiny of those 2 is no metaphor.
One note- I do not consider Hell a major topic or deal breaker within Christianity.
And how do you know the destiny of the antichrist and false prophet is no metaphor? Are we to simply take your word for it? It actually isn't a metaphor, but I never said it was. Being baptized by fire is painful, in this world and the next.
If you knew the true translation of "forever and ever," you would know that that is absolutely NOT what it means.
For the record, you speak of Revelation 20:10, which is this:
"And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
If you were to look at Young's Literal Translation, the Weymouth NT and others, you would read the following:
"...and they shall be tormented day and night -- to the ages of the ages."
That is because the Greek word "aion" in all its forms does not mean forever in any way, shape or form. It refers to an "age," which has a beginning and an end.
A full (yet somewhat lengthy) explanation can be found here:
http://www.tentmaker.org/FAQ/forever_eternity.html
Furthermore, there are several Scriptures that simply do not make any sense and are in complete contradiction if we were to use the traditional translation. For instance:
1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.
There are plenty others.