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Are you an Islamophobe?
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RE: Are you an Islamophobe?
(March 13, 2015 at 8:07 pm)Dystopia Wrote:
(March 13, 2015 at 2:56 pm)robvalue Wrote: Passive as in not killing or threatening people.

Maybe violent and non-violent Islam then?

I accept this distinction, I gladly welcome peaceful secularist Muslims in the west. A problem with this is answering the question "who's violent?" - For example, a Muslim who thinks gays should be executed but doesn't protest or actively seek to implement that measure - Is this person violent?

Yeah, that's difficult. I don't claim it would be an easy distinction! In a very rule of thumb way I would say such thoughts and beliefs alone would not be considered violent, but the willingness to act on them is. Of course, put such a non-violent muslim in a different context and you may see a violent Muslim. But I think we have to accept that secularism can muzzle religion effectively... so those which grudgingly abide by secular laws would be non violent, those that try and impose sharia regardless and do their own shit I'd call violent.
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Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Marsellus Wallace - March 12, 2015 at 10:56 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Spooky - March 13, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by WinterHold - March 16, 2015 at 4:22 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by abaris - March 12, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Nope - March 12, 2015 at 11:01 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 12, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 11:09 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ravenshire - March 12, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ravenshire - March 12, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 12, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ben Davis - March 12, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Mudhammam - March 12, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Mudhammam - March 12, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ben Davis - March 12, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ben Davis - March 12, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 12, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by professor - March 12, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by FatAndFaithless - March 12, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 12, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 12, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Grandizer - March 12, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by professor - March 12, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by FatAndFaithless - March 12, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 12, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by JuliaL - March 12, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 12, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 12, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 12, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Minimalist - March 12, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Sterben - March 12, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ben Davis - March 13, 2015 at 6:03 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 13, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ben Davis - March 13, 2015 at 10:07 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 13, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ben Davis - March 13, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by MysticKnight - March 12, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Cato - March 12, 2015 at 9:25 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by MysticKnight - March 12, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by professor - March 12, 2015 at 7:58 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Invisible Sky Fairy - March 15, 2015 at 3:01 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 15, 2015 at 7:28 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Invisible Sky Fairy - March 15, 2015 at 11:48 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Sterben - March 15, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Invisible Sky Fairy - March 15, 2015 at 11:11 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 16, 2015 at 7:59 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by WinterHold - March 18, 2015 at 5:27 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Cato - March 18, 2015 at 6:55 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by WinterHold - March 18, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by FatAndFaithless - March 18, 2015 at 8:43 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by WinterHold - March 18, 2015 at 9:34 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by FatAndFaithless - March 18, 2015 at 9:36 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Cato - March 18, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 18, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Cato - March 18, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ben Davis - March 18, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 18, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Cato - March 18, 2015 at 12:16 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Chas - March 18, 2015 at 8:56 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 18, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by WinterHold - March 18, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 18, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 18, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ravenshire - March 12, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 12, 2015 at 8:36 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ravenshire - March 12, 2015 at 8:48 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Sterben - March 12, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 12, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Sterben - March 13, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 13, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Ben Davis - March 13, 2015 at 8:20 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 13, 2015 at 9:52 am
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RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 13, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 13, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 13, 2015 at 1:57 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 13, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 13, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 15, 2015 at 3:08 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 13, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 13, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 13, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 13, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 13, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 14, 2015 at 3:51 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 13, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Sterben - March 13, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 14, 2015 at 5:01 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 14, 2015 at 7:00 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by jesus_wept - March 14, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 14, 2015 at 10:08 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 14, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 14, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 14, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 14, 2015 at 2:49 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Sterben - March 14, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 15, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 15, 2015 at 11:50 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Pizza - March 15, 2015 at 11:14 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 16, 2015 at 2:14 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 18, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 18, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by FatAndFaithless - March 18, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 18, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by FatAndFaithless - March 18, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 18, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 18, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 18, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by FatAndFaithless - March 18, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by robvalue - March 18, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 18, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by WinterHold - March 18, 2015 at 3:01 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by FatAndFaithless - March 18, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by DeistPaladin - March 18, 2015 at 6:40 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 18, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by RobertE - March 18, 2015 at 5:48 pm
RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by abaris - March 18, 2015 at 6:35 pm
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RE: Are you an Islamophobe? - by Dystopia - March 28, 2015 at 3:44 pm
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