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Help me out here, Ex Buddhists.
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RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists.
(March 16, 2015 at 3:43 am)tantric Wrote:
(March 15, 2015 at 11:43 pm)Chuck Wrote: Does quantum mechanics stand to such reason as you might learn through Buddhism? And does Buddhism expand your common sense so much you can intuit the predictions of quantum mechanics?

Parts of it, yes. The nonduality part, especially. I don't find QP confusing at all - the idea of a completely objective or subjective universe is obviously unworkable. Reality isn't boolean. That statement is a translation, and I suspect a bad one, and it's not actually the Buddha, but if you think that matters, well...

"“Now, Kalamas, don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to welfare & to happiness’ — then you should enter & remain in them." is the Hindu original.

No it does not work. Buddhism didn't invent anything. It is a religion. This is the same retrofitting after the fact every other religion does.

No religion was around 200.000 years ago. Much less 4 billion years ago, much less 14 billion years ago.

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Nothing bad in Buddhist writings?

http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/07/warrior...iolence-i/

From the article,

Nirvana Sutr Wrote:Buddha…said…”When I recall the past, I remember that I was the king of a great state…My name was Senyo, and I loved and venerated the Mahayana sutras…When I heard the Brahmins slandering the vaipulya sutras, I put them to death on the spot. Good men, as a result of that action, I never thereafter fell into hell. O good man! When we accept and defend the Mahayana sutras, we possess innumerable virtues

On top of reincarnation being a load of tripe, like every other religion you find stories of killing in the name of honor. QM does say some freaky stuff but it will never justify a comic book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

There is no religion that can or should be used in place of INDEPENDENT science which does not require ANY religion. Religions are things humans invent, they are reflections of the societies people grow up in. They are not required in the least to explain anything about scientific reality.

Karma is a horrible concept and is really nothing more than the same concept of revenge as any other. The victim of violence of any religion hides behind their being a victim, only to turn around and get even. It is just a different form of getting even. It has nothing to do with peace.

The idea of "you reap what you sew" merely stems from our reactionary evolution when we as a species react to a threat. It is no different than any other justification for protecting the tribe of any other religion.

Karma is not a corrective concept or an act of containment anymore than the hell's of the Abrahmic traditions are corrective. The all still amount to revenge. Someone hurts you, you hurt them.
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Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2015 at 9:14 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by tantric - March 15, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Whateverist - April 30, 2015 at 6:19 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Angrboda - April 30, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Anomalocaris - March 15, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by tantric - March 16, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - March 16, 2015 at 5:47 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Aoi Magi - March 16, 2015 at 6:59 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - March 16, 2015 at 7:25 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Aoi Magi - March 16, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - March 16, 2015 at 11:02 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Anomalocaris - March 16, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - March 16, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 5:28 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - March 16, 2015 at 12:22 pm
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by tantric - April 30, 2015 at 5:14 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by tantric - April 30, 2015 at 6:03 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 6:42 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by tantric - April 30, 2015 at 9:41 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Mudhammam - April 30, 2015 at 10:49 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Mudhammam - April 30, 2015 at 10:56 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by tantric - April 30, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Help me out here, Ex Buddhists. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2015 at 12:34 pm

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