(March 19, 2015 at 1:04 pm)Jesusislord Wrote: I have noticed that some of the atheist members on this forum state that some members were previously members of churches and then became atheists. My question is simply were any of these members Christians before - Here I mean, did any of these members have a personal relationship with Jesus and then became atheists? Anybody can 'belong to a church' but to have a relationship with God is something totally different....In other words, were they Christians, or True Christians™? This notion that we'd have remained Christians if we'd simply done it right makes it seem quite complicated to be a Christian. Do you find it complicated to be a Christian? Were there specific steps in specific sequence that you had to take, without which you would not have achieved that personal relationship with Jesus? And if so, what are they?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
