I'm getting conflicting information as well. When I tried to google a full episode, I was unable to actually find one that was relevant with the same names. I do know the bat shit crazy lady's last name is Perrin. She was interviewed plenty of times. I'd do more research but I'd rather prove drippy wrong about the US being founded on christian principles.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
