RE: Comparing god to a Narcissist.
March 27, 2015 at 11:58 pm
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2015 at 12:05 am by Bob Kelso.)
(March 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I would argue that if you were a God, you'd have a right to be narcissistic.
Why? Might doesn't make right in my book.
(March 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: - Job 9:24
If this was true he wouldn't of given us free will. We ask the question of why evil exists, the truth is, if everyone loved their neighbor, evil wouldn't exist, If everyone had love for one another, starving kids wouldn't exist. You can clearly see that the problem lies not with God but with man.
We could do dueling bible verses if you like, same book too;
Job 12:10- In his hand is the life of every creature, and the breath of all mankind.
Free will indeed, and if you don't utilize that free will in the way he sees fit he only sends you to a torturous plane of existence for all of eternity.
Who has the most culpability in this, Huggy, the mortals or the all powerful, omniscient, deity? In a given situation I'm far angrier with a good man who chose to do nothing, when he could have stopped evil, than the one who committed it; and even this little hypothetical fails to fully address a deity's failings.
(March 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: If you could create a universe, I'd put you on a pedestal too, because..I don't know...I owe my existence to you?. Also the sacrifices are for YOUR benefit, not his.
So if you found out that the world was actually created by Shai'tan (the Great Lord of the Dark from The Wheel of Time series) you'd worship him because he created you? You would have no mind for merit? No judgement for atrocities? Fuck that mindset man.
As for sacrifice; don't you think a benevolent all powerful deity would just have the capacity for bare forgiveness?
(March 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Strange how this "abusive" God let you get away with this post without being stuck down.
I realize you're new, but the slavery thing has been discussed to death.
Strange how this "benevolent" deity you worship will send a good person to an eternal pit of torture for no more reason than not accepting dubious claims.
(March 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Claiming people serve God because they are afraid of Hell is like saying people don't commit murder because they are afraid of the death penalty.
Either your a murder or your not, the penalty for murder doesn't factor in the decision.
So you're claiming that there are no people that take out "fire insurance"? Please. A show of hands, my fellow non-Christians, as to how many of you have seen Pascal's Wager trotted out as if it were the Christian's secret weapon? That's nothing but a tactic to induce doubt and fear in the hopes of conversion, and people have fallen for it since it's conception.
(March 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You serve God out of love not fear. You cannot mentally conceive how horrific hell is. It makes no sense for you to fear something you have no concept for. A literal burning hell would be like Disneyland compared to what hell is actually like.
You're either woefully unimaginative, or you're just being a disingenuous tit. Honestly now.
(March 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Remember hell was never intended for humans, it was made for Satan and his angels, so it is something that demons are terrified of.
Always love this statement. Pray tell, how on earth does an omniscient being not intend to do something? They know what's going to happen.
(March 24, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just like how you cannot conceive of how vast the universe is, you cannot conceive of horrific hell is. Neither can you conceive of how beautiful heaven is.
