RE: Proof of God
April 6, 2015 at 5:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2015 at 6:03 pm by bennyboy.
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(April 6, 2015 at 5:50 am)Harris Wrote:You talk of justice, and yet you have an omnipotent God who has allowed my daughter to be raped. And statistics show that most rapists have either brain damage or a history of abuse in their own lives. God has allowed the brain damage or the history of abuse. And the brain damage is a result of genetic abnormalities or exposure to harmful substances in development. God has allowed the genetic abnormalities or exposure to harmful substances.(April 5, 2015 at 3:05 am)bennyboy Wrote: Peace is turning the other cheek, not an eye for an eye. It's forgiveness, not a shout for justice at the point of a sword.In a world in which not everyone is a saint, saintly turning of the other cheek will lead to the victory of evil. If you have two young daughters and some culprit rape one of them, would you like to forgive the culprit and offer him other daughter as well? Talk wisely. The most important function of criminal law is to promote the conviction that crime leads to punishment. Justice is the basis of action and punishment is necessary.
You have people with animal instincts, especially procreation. But, tell me, what is the punishment for the crime of sex outside a relationship sanctioned by the laws and rituals of ancient desert people? Is it not death, if your religious texts are interpreted literally? Is it not by each man's nature that he sins or does not sin? And why doesn't God, knowing the nature of each man, provide for him the remedy to the spiritual illnesses that doom some to crime, and make others naturally avoid it?
Tell me, if God has decreed that a particular act is deserving of death, why do idolaters or harlots or adulturers not simply die on the spot? Why do some escape uncaught, while others who are innocent of the crimes get stoned to death by uneducated savages?
No. Your whole failed concept of freewill and justice depends on accepting the fairy tale of an afterlife, with a just God presiding over it. You insist that the many cruelties and injustices in the actual world are repaid in an afterlife, of which there is no evidence, and for which their is no reason to hold a belief except the deep desire that the world, which is clearly not justice, actually turn out upon the revelation of death to be just after all.