(April 10, 2015 at 10:34 am)Dystopia Wrote: And I value some arguments made against religion - The main figures in the atheist movement can be good debate professors and to understand the problems with religion, but they all had flaws - Hitchens was slightly pro-life and pretty much said men are biologically superior to women in comedy; Dawkins made some weird twitter rants about how mild rape/paedophilia is better than serious rape/paedophilia and how it is immoral to have Down Syndrome kids etc and Harris argued racial profiling of Muslims and said torturing them is inevitable etc - I like to see them as good against religion but they're not particularly good in anything else (other than science and their respective specialities/PhD's) - For this reason I think we should not worship them - From my experience when someone admires a figure we tend to agree with EVERYTHING they say and that's a dangerous route to take (it's simply our bias telling us that the person is perfect)
You are misrepresenting what Hitchens said. His argument was that men needed to be funnier than women did --- it was nothing to do with biology, it was cultural.
Dawkins pedophilia comments need context. His argument was that 'mild' pedophilia, of the 1950s was actually common. However, his argument is that he struggles to condemn people of that era who would have behaved in that way in contrast to someone of modern times. This is what he said:
I am very conscious that you can’t condemn people of an earlier era by the standards of ours. Just as we don’t look back at the 18th and 19th centuries and condemn people for racism in the same way as we would condemn a modern person for racism, I look back a few decades to my childhood and see things like caning, like mild pedophilia, and can’t find it in me to condemn it by the same standards as I or anyone would today,”
I am aware that Harris argued in favor of profiling Muslims, however when did he say ''inevitable torture''?
In regards to Hitch, he clarified his stance on female-male comedy and how his stance had been misrepresented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S692f1tnuQ
