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Pascal's Wager Revisited
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RE: Pascal's Wager Revisited
April 10, 2015 at 9:55 pm (This post was last modified: April 10, 2015 at 10:02 pm by datc.)
(April 10, 2015 at 9:42 pm)Nestor Wrote: I want to believe ...

I want to believe a lot of things. It doesn't mean I can have them, and it doesn't mean they are true. You don't like it? Tough shit. Try to make this world, the one you know exists in some fashion, better to whatever extent your abilities allow, instead of wasting your time construing ad hoc assurances in another that you can only ever imagine in your head. The correct wager is not a rejection of a unfathomably enjoyable phantom world, it's an acceptance of this terrifying yet awesome concrete one.

(1) Failing to countenance evil and ugliness or (2) the rationality of the desire to be omnipotent, are not assumptions in the argument we are considering.

I accept this world in all its indeed "terrifying yet awesome" aspects. However, I suggest that at the end of the ride, there is something beyond; and moreover, it may be a good strategy to bet on it, even if you are unsure what to think.

Thanks to all who participated. I have gained from this discussion and hope you have, in your own way, too.
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Pascal's Wager Revisited - by datc - April 7, 2015 at 2:34 pm
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