Eternal the originator of time - proof.

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I already stated that this a proof for a Creator, not God. However, if we were to ponder over our own nature and the world, we would see benevolent will, yet we would see a trial in a world where we are tried by good and evil, blessings and affliction. The very nature of love, goodness, and honor shows we been given opportunity to become something worthy and this is obviously not from a neutral or evil being. The honorable possible ranks we can walk through is obviously a possibility. It's not far off to see that morality was not just created from nothing but has a basis in an eternal reality, the creator himself. God himself cannot decide the nature of goodness, but he himself is rather the ultimate nature of goodness by which he has knowledge of it and the opposite of it.  When we realize the origin of goodness is God...then this is not far off to see.  It's not far off to see praise belong to God, God being the source and basis of it, and by which it get's it's reality. Seeing benevolent will in creation, it's not far off, that as humans stray off the path, become irrational, do not think and reflect properly, books reminding us of our spiritual reality, our purpose, emphasizing advice and reminders, be sent by the creator. Aside from that, it's not far off to see God help his elite friends in guiding to the truth by manifesting their leadership and appointing them as guides.  They being the most fit for leadership and having the wisdom, it's not far off to see God guide us by them.  In fact, everything becomes easy to see once you acknowledge a creator. The nature of darkness and light becomes obvious when you accept a spiritual creator to the universe, and light having infinite possible ranks points to the Creator being the utmost absolute light possessing all possible light.

I like you Mystic but find your posts to be getting less and less grounded in reality. Suffice it to say that I disagree with all the above at a fundamental level.