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Hello from the UK :)
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RE: Hello from the UK :)
(April 12, 2015 at 12:03 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Greetings emjay

I'm new here too and thought I'd read what you guys were saying before jumping in.

That's an interesting story. I know what you mean about those conversations that invariably end in tears. Once I actually got into it with my mom on Mother's Da,y of all days. Though for me, it usually ends in cognitive dissonance. I have to check myself and remember that I waws one a Christian and know how the Church programs our mind to think a certain way and guard against real thought.

What about C.S. Lewis did  you find most compelling?
Hello Rhondazvous,

Welcome to the forum Smile


Cognitive dissonance? I'm not too familiar with that term... is that emotional ambivalence? Or living a lie? I feel I'm living a lie in the sense that it feels uncomfortable saying anything bad about my parents - as I had to in intro on here in order to explain my situation - but apart from the religious aspect I love them to pieces.

The C.S. Lewis book just struck me as very original. It just concentrated on a very simple idea: that the 'fall' of Adam was him making the simple choice of self over god, and that hell was the absolute conseqence of that - the complete absense of god - and that heaven was a return to the pre-fall state. The idea was that in the pre-fall state consciousness was somehow purer/more evolved that it is now and that it had full control of the body and was in a state of perfectly blissful dedication to god. The book didn't bang on about the ten commandments or even Jesus, just this simple idea.

I'm interested in meditation - not religious meditation - just meditation and the book appealed to me on that level because it made heaven seem (to me) like a meditative state rather than a physical place and that I could just about buy into as a pleasant fantasy. But a fantasy was all it was because however poetic an author can make it sound in a book at the end of the day when you put that book down you're still left with the Bible, and I can't read even a few pages of that without seeing its contradictions.

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Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 3, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by FatAndFaithless - April 3, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by pocaracas - April 3, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Norman Humann - April 3, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Pyrrho - April 3, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by SteelCurtain - April 3, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 3, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Brian37 - April 3, 2015 at 5:25 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 3, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Minimalist - April 3, 2015 at 5:59 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by RobertE - April 3, 2015 at 6:17 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Tobie - April 3, 2015 at 7:09 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by AFTT47 - April 3, 2015 at 7:19 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by robvalue - April 4, 2015 at 5:06 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 4, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Lucanus - April 4, 2015 at 5:11 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Norman Humann - April 4, 2015 at 5:14 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Lucanus - April 4, 2015 at 5:22 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by StuW - April 4, 2015 at 5:27 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Alex K - April 4, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 4, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Alex K - April 5, 2015 at 3:28 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 10, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 10, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 10, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Alex K - April 10, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by robvalue - April 10, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Lucanus - April 10, 2015 at 6:10 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 10, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Alex K - April 10, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by SteelCurtain - April 10, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 3:10 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 11, 2015 at 5:56 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 6:07 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by LastPoet - April 11, 2015 at 7:45 am
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 11, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Kitty Galore - April 11, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 11, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Rhondazvous - April 12, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 12, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Rhondazvous - April 12, 2015 at 7:20 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by emjay - April 12, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Rhondazvous - April 16, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 12, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Hello from the UK :) - by Exian - April 12, 2015 at 2:10 pm

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