(April 13, 2015 at 4:12 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: Gay advocates are very quick to label people bigots, homophobes and repressed homosexuals when others have a difference of opinions about gender identity. Those kinds of ad hominem attacks reveal the poverty of their position.
Considering that the position we're responding to has never had a single argument that is, you know, true, there isn't a lot of responding to actually be done. Try starting off with something factually accurate, and maybe you'll get a response that has more content than the simple observation that all of this is thin justification for presupposed bigotry based on religion.
Quote:The secular humanists have no response to the homosexuality going contrary to evolutionary advantage because that’s their argument of convenience when it comes to how they can be good without God. When it applies to sex they set aside the evolutionary justifications for human morality because it would be too inconvenient to for them.
Chad, if you don't understand evolution, then you can just admit that, you don't need to pretend that you do. We can see right through that.
The "evolutionary advantage" you speak of is little more than an invention of your misunderstanding of the process; in truth, evolution does not continually produce advantageous traits, nor are the most optimal traits necessarily the ones that get preserved in the gene pool, so this idea that if we were to follow an evolutionary model we'd have a problem with gays is completely fucked coming and going; evolution functions in such a way that, even if gays were a detriment, they would still be entirely consistent with our stance on them.
Second of all, evolution works upon populations, not upon individuals, and the fact that we are the dominant species on our planet, with the highest level of attained technology and a stable population indicates that the presence of homosexuality for the entirety of our species' evolution has not produced a statistically significant disadvantage, making it a neutral trait and not a negative one. Natural selection only selects out lethal traits, so given that homosexuality isn't lethal, it isn't something we have to deal with.
Lastly, evolution is not the sole dictator of our morality, even if it is where the concept originates. So... hey.
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