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Eternal the originator of time - proof.
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof.
(April 15, 2015 at 5:29 pm)Nestor Wrote:
(April 15, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Alex K Wrote: I don't understand what you mean by that (bold mine)
I mean, in QM, there are two fundamentally  different ways in which a state function can change: through continuous causal evolution and through collapse at a measurement.  Per the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, and the EPR paradox, a sister particle has its position or momentum determined by our measurement of the first, and both have no definite position AND momentum prior to it... I.e. the second is forced into one or the other when we measure for either position or momentum on the first. Of course, there's a lot of speculation about what the wave-function actually represents, but the article Robert posted isn't more drastic as a plausible solution in consideration of the problem, than something like the Everett-DeWitt interpretation.

Right. So, the Everett-DeWitt interpretation is at least one example that does not require this distinction I'd say.

The distinction between the past being fixed and remembered, the future uncertain and unknowable, may not be written into the laws of physics directly, but I have a strong suspicion that it can be understood as a statistical phenomenon even without quantum effects.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by MysticKnight - April 11, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by abaris - April 11, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Chad32 - April 11, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Chad32 - April 11, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 11, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 11, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 11, 2015 at 8:19 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 12, 2015 at 7:06 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Chas - April 12, 2015 at 8:23 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by LostLocke - April 12, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 12, 2015 at 2:12 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Chas - April 12, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Aoi Magi - April 12, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Iroscato - April 11, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 8:23 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 12, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 11, 2015 at 8:29 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 11, 2015 at 9:40 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 11, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 12, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by IATIA - April 12, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Chas - April 11, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Chas - April 12, 2015 at 6:58 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 11, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by IATIA - April 11, 2015 at 10:06 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Mudhammam - April 11, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Esquilax - April 12, 2015 at 1:13 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 12, 2015 at 1:24 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 12, 2015 at 3:23 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Lucanus - April 12, 2015 at 3:59 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 12, 2015 at 8:19 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by FreeTony - April 12, 2015 at 8:56 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by JuliaL - April 13, 2015 at 11:09 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Pizza - April 12, 2015 at 9:58 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Esquilax - April 12, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Silver - April 12, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Esquilax - April 12, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by LostLocke - April 13, 2015 at 11:48 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 12, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Aoi Magi - April 12, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 12, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 13, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 12, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 13, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Cyberman - April 13, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 13, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Esquilax - April 13, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 13, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Esquilax - April 13, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 13, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Esquilax - April 13, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 14, 2015 at 7:52 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Cyberman - April 14, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Pizza - April 14, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by FreeTony - April 14, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by henryp - April 14, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 15, 2015 at 5:14 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 15, 2015 at 3:01 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 15, 2015 at 5:17 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 15, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 15, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by Alex K - April 15, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by noctalla - April 18, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by bennyboy - April 19, 2015 at 12:35 am
RE: Eternal the originator of time - proof. - by robvalue - April 19, 2015 at 2:00 am

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