RE: Being gay is a fetish.
April 17, 2015 at 10:56 am
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2015 at 11:22 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(April 16, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: Believers can tolerate living in an over-sexualized and materialistic society but believers shouldn't be expected to condone, celebrate, or materially support the neo-pagan sensibilities of secular culture.Believers should not expect to have their bigotries ignored. If a person values the ruminations of a Bronze Age tribe of goatherders over the dignity of a human being to the point that he is willing to deny another human equal treatment, then that fact is pertinent and should be pointed out.
(April 16, 2015 at 5:07 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: If the issues around homosexuality are only differences of opinion about morality, then making pro-gay public policies amounts to forcing your liberal secular irreligion onto others, in clear violation of the establishment clause of the 1st Ammendment (in the USA).
Firstly, policies like allowing gay marriage, or allowing gay couple to adopt, are not pro-gay. They are pro-equality. A "pro-gay" policy would extend rights or privileges to gays that heterosexuals don't enjoy.
Secondly, equality in civil society is not a religious issue, it is a civil rights issue. If your religion impels you to deny equal rights to others, then perhaps there's another country whose laws more closely comport with your views where you'd find living more amenable?
Also, lol at your marrying "liberal" and "secular", and labeling them both "irreligion". Your filters are strong if you see everything in that light. Your thinking is sloppy if you conflate political outlook, governmental philosophy, and religious views.
(April 16, 2015 at 5:23 pm)Mezmo! Wrote:(April 16, 2015 at 5:13 pm)Rhythm Wrote: ... "Pro-gay" policies are policies of "equality" - google the word, it's important.
Not when public funds are used to sponsor a Gay Pride parade or when a court order forces you to take 'sensitivity' training.
Have you complained yet about government funding going to religious charities? Have you campaigned to have the tax-exempt status of churches rolled back?
I didn't think so. You want to eat your cake, and have it, too.
(April 16, 2015 at 5:33 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Yes, because being ordered to treat a human being like a human being after (presumably, if you're in a court, after committing a crime) is SUCH a bad thing.
The longer I'm here, the more the resident theists make me sick. What happened to all the good ones that used to be here.
Would you want to be associated with this group here, who justify bigotry, excuse slavery, pray for other to contract fatal diseases, and demonstrate a vile amorality?
If I were a Christian, the last thing I'd want is to be seen supporting this group of charlatans who wouldn't know a good deed if it bit them in the ass.
Heywood Wrote:Yeah and if gays don't like gay marriages restrictions they should pack up and move somewhere else. Your response is utterly stupid.
Speaking of utterly stupid, you seem to have forgotten the fact that gays have the right to equal treatment under the law, guaranteed them by the 14th Amendment.
Why do you hate the Constitution?
(April 17, 2015 at 2:01 am)Heywood Wrote:(April 17, 2015 at 1:57 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: And how do you know that?
You should have paid attention.
I missed the part where you laid out your qualifications to speak on the value of homosexuality. Do you have any direct experience with it? Or are you simply smuggling your own biases into the conversation again, and hoping no one will notice?